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Old 11-02-2008, 04:32 AM
greengiant greengiant is offline
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dead frozen wheatgrass - why no

first of i would like to ask mr stem why he never bothered answering my post regarding details of his production process, things like time elapsed between cutting in the field and finally interring in ice cubes, chemicals used to protect frrom pest, cleaning of cut grass etc, but he chose to ignore, basically what protocols his company adhere to in the production of his supplement. he was seemingly too busy claiming that he was replacing a fresh grass growers produce with his own supplement. i still haven't seen a post from him to back up these claims. so one must assume that his words are not gospel.

i wish to add the following in relation to his well typed post.

Health Impact.

your chlorophyll is 50% higher than fresh grown..... wheatgrass juice is 98% water 2% the rest. yes or no? chlorophyll is miniscule in reality, so 50% of a tiny tiny amount is still a tiny addition. the jury is still out on whether the human body can actually absorb or benefit directly from chlorophyll.
are you really so bold as to state that your FROZEN supplement does "massive internal changes like unclumping red blood cells". can you back that up and all because of its ice structuring proteins or so you say. BRAVE WORDS

by the way, your outdoor grown grass stopped being natural when you froze it.

Taste and ....

Tray grown grass freshly juiced is not the same as outdoor freshly juiced. but you sell ice cubes - not fresh. No one gets to drink your grass fresh from the field. as for the detox effect - i have gone through this stage and thankfully was never blinded by your profit driven propaganda. if i had come across your well writen tripe at that time, i most probably would have fell victim to your grossly inaccurate claims, and would ultimately not have reaped the rewards which followed the detox period. the mere fact that your supplement has no cleansing effects on the body makes me wonder if i'd be as well off taking a pill supplement.

Convenience....

it takes a few minutes to cut,rinse,juice, drink and clean the machine. no more time that it takes to boil the kettle. if that is one of your points - your digging deep. athletes spend a lot longer preparing their carefully balanced supplements each day. the sick must adhere to strict guidelines with medication.
How long does it take to DEFROST your dead supplement. and don't bother telling us about how wheatgrass can endure frosty conditions etc as you do not supply a rooted grass to people, you sell a frozen juice - know the difference.

Immediate availability.

Scraping the bottom of the barrell there. you'll pitch anything for a buck. I am happy knowing that when i juice my grass it is fresh. when was your ice cubes processed, but i guess we should assume your process is pristine. i've looked at your web site - full of half truths - thats for another post - but the thing that grabs you by the balls is the way way your main page is pushing your grass for sale. you're profit orientated not health.

smaller start up costs

your grass ain't cheap. price of plastic is high i guess. you throw a figure of $250 for a juicer to deter people. a manual juicer costs $50, electrics start at $150, but you choose not to inform people, flats of grass cost 12 euro in ireland, so i'll bold and say $20 in the U.S. - correct me if need be, but it only costs a fraction of this figure to grow it yourself.

You talk of high usage, but people should start on low usage and build upward, but you fail to state this to try to make a point. tut tut. some spokesman you are.

frozen is best in northern regions...

weather is shit here most of the time. grass still grows, yield is lower in winter but i can live with it. probably grows because of the ice structuring proteins or something. daylight from 8.30 till 4.30 seems to be enough for my grass, or they haven't complained.

You make a lot of claims which i don't believe you can back up with facts, and i'd welcome some input regarding your whole process with time scales (very important when we're talking of a living product) cleaning agents used in washing cut crop, pest control, quality control, etc etc.

and once again i'd like to say that FRESH outdoor grown grass is most probably better than tray grown in many ways, but there is a difference between freshly cut and juiced and consumed and a green ice cube which is now dead and god knows how old.
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