The nine years That I have been growing....and having a few mentors of extensive knowledge about wheatgrass. If you grew wheatgrass in your hand...with out SOAKING the berries in .... minerals, humactants...or using SUPER NATURALPH balanced water???? !...or Volcanic ash. What ever. YOU would still have Fresh wheatgrass juice when you processed it! Did you change and TRY the sysytem and method that I sugested? Less soaking time in plain water(no clorine or peroxicide?) and only a 24 hour sprouting period not 3 days? Keepthe seeds moist and the growing mediam not super wet...use a misting. and on the third day THEN wet the soiless or soil mixture you grow in. Subdued sunlight...not direct? I have tryed Kamut and had NO problem with the larger Kamut berries. Re-capitulate you procedures...maybe I am mising something about exactly what you are doing. Thanks....I do care. Just had a client document that HE cured his dog (told to uthanize it by THREE VETS) of Cancer in 5 weeks feeding the animal FRESH wheatgrasss juice every day....O-Bla DI Obla-Da