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Old 10-03-2007, 07:48 AM
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Need help choosing soil

I started growing wheatgrass by ordering a "kit" from wheatgrasskits.com. The soil they sent was EKO Organic Soil Mix along with Azomite fertilizer. EKO is made up of simply Canadian sphagnum peat moss and perlite.

Now, when i ran out of soil and went searching for more, i hoped to find a similar replacement. After checking Home Depot, Ace Hardware, and Walmart, all i could find were deluxe potting soils. They all contain cow manure, poultry waste, and bat guano as fertilizer. I read in another post on this forum that manure can breed E.coli and salmonella at the bottom of the growing trays. I'm growing indoor and should i be concerned about this?

I ended up getting SuperSoil potting soil which is made up of Canadian sphagnum peat moss, potassium nitrate, triple superphosphate, calcium nitrate, ureaform, ferrous sulfate, dried poultry waste, feather meal, alfalfa meal, kelp meal.

I was planning on sticking with the plain Canadian sphagnum peat moss and perlite mix and switching from azomite to sea kelp meal for fertilizer. Will the Supersoil be optimal enough to produce quality wheatgrass juice and should i be concerned about the poultry waste?

I'm in southern california if anyone has any suggestions for nurseries or stores to try.


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Old 10-03-2007, 06:20 PM
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Are you seri!!!!!ous?????

I have posted several times that the soil or soilless grow mixes should NEVER have any manure or animal substance in them.....And you go out and buy a mix with those very ingridients in the mix.

Every put gasoline on a small fire to put it out?

You have also never been in a submarine(donot open this door) or worked with explosives(or ever push this button)~~~~~~!

Topical MOLD is not pathagenic.

BUT!~~~Pay attention to the removal of ALL Spinach from the shelves in the ENTIRE nation a few months ago....ECOLI has developed below the growing surface ...it may have been Dole?

Serious enough to remove the entire production until it was checked. And YOU stop using a pure and simple Canadian Peat and Perlite mix...and BUY one with ALL of the WRONG amendments. >>>Da.

Do you work for Walgreen's? CVS Pharmacies....Or did you just post for amusement?

I do sell a replacement pack (soiless custom grow mix from Fafard(Canadian grow mix company..nation wide here in the U.S.A.)You recieve 2.8 cu ft of our mix(same cusatom mix for the past 9 years)It comes with 4 pounds of Food Grade Sea Kelp Meal(also from Canada). Drelichwheatgrass.com or just buy your growing supplies from where you bought your kit from(they are also nice people).

Unless you are dring a "diet soda" with Equal or Nutra sweet in it...and munching on a fast food $.99 special.....

BELIEVE~~~~~~in the facts.
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Old 10-07-2007, 11:16 AM
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Cool Local greenhouse will have what you need.

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I started growing wheatgrass by ordering a "kit" from wheatgrasskits.com. The soil they sent was EKO Organic Soil Mix along with Azomite fertilizer. EKO is made up of simply Canadian sphagnum peat moss and perlite.

Now, when i ran out of soil and went searching for more, i hoped to find a similar replacement. After checking Home Depot, Ace Hardware, and Walmart, all i could find were deluxe potting soils. They all contain cow manure, poultry waste, and bat guano as fertilizer. I read in another post on this forum that manure can breed E.coli and salmonella at the bottom of the growing trays. I'm growing indoor and should i be concerned about this?

I ended up getting SuperSoil potting soil which is made up of Canadian sphagnum peat moss, potassium nitrate, triple superphosphate, calcium nitrate, ureaform, ferrous sulfate, dried poultry waste, feather meal, alfalfa meal, kelp meal.

I was planning on sticking with the plain Canadian sphagnum peat moss and perlite mix and switching from azomite to sea kelp meal for fertilizer. Will the Supersoil be optimal enough to produce quality wheatgrass juice and should i be concerned about the poultry waste?

I'm in southern california if anyone has any suggestions for nurseries or stores to try.

Find a local greenhouse and ask about getting peatmoss and perlite or vermiculite in bulk quantities.If you use manures make sure they are food grade composts.Recycling your flats is possible and will save you money but it takes some work.Good luck and happy growing.
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Old 10-07-2007, 04:20 PM
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Vermiculite....?

It is great for starting seeds. But it is a water grabber and I think omitting it and not rotting roots would be a concern....?

Most commercial mixes are pumped with a Wetting agent(chemical)...so be careful.
And many have a start up fertalizer added also.
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Old 10-08-2007, 06:36 AM
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perlite

What percentage should perlite make up of the peatmoss/perlite mix?
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Old 10-08-2007, 06:44 AM
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The company

that designed(Fafard from Canada) my grow-mix knows that answer. When we finish our air composting we add more from time to time......plus fresh mix also. With the Food Grade Sea Kelp meal.
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Old 10-08-2007, 07:13 AM
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Your mix will depend on.

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What percentage should perlite make up of the peatmoss/perlite mix?
Growing conditions relavent to where your growing,it took me awhile to figure out what worked here in central Il.I grow outside in grow racks and am at the merceys of mother nature.Perlite tends to dry out during the long hot days of summer so I use vermiculite and adjust as the season progresses.I use 2-4 more cups of vermiculite during the months of June,July and August.Today I used 12 cups of compost from my compost pile along with 4 cups of medium grade vermiculite spiked with a large pinch of a azomite,kelp blend.Are you growing inside or outside and where on earth are you located PassTheGrass ?
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Old 10-20-2007, 02:35 PM
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I'm in Southern CA. I grow indoors with the temperature usually in the mid-70's.

Here's an update on my soil situation. I tried to find a mix that contained no animal manure and read about a mix called PRO-MIX Ultimate Organic Mix which is OMRI certified. It is made up of

Canadian Sphagnum Peat Moss
Sea-based Compost (from composted shrimp shells & seaweed)
Limestone (for pH adjustment)
Perlite
Mycorise® - endomycorrhizae inoculant

Sounds great but unfortunately i couldn't find it anywhere in my area.
So, i figured i would have to mix it myself. I found Premier Peat-Moss by Premier Horticulture at Lowes. At a local nursery i was able to pick up Gardner & Bloome Perlite and Dr. Earth Kelp Meal. All of these claim to be 100% natural so i'm assuming i'll be within organic standards.

Now, since i'm in a temperature controlled environment, should the Perlite make up a small amount like 10-15% of the mix?

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Old 10-20-2007, 05:48 PM
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Too much-Not Enough---and just RIGHT!

Those are the parameters about growing any thing.
Water-sunlight-fertalizers-when to harvest.......

Having a higher percent of Perlite will increase airation of the roots. And as long as you are growing in AT LEAST 2 inches of grow mix....you should notice a difference.

Pardon my spelling

ps. Try to use WATER that does not come from the "city"...the chlorine will CHANGE the taste of your final product. Yuk.
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Old 10-22-2007, 02:11 AM
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Now the fun begins.

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I'm in Southern CA. I grow indoors with the temperature usually in the mid-70's.

Here's an update on my soil situation. I tried to find a mix that contained no animal manure and read about a mix called PRO-MIX Ultimate Organic Mix which is OMRI certified. It is made up of

Canadian Sphagnum Peat Moss
Sea-based Compost (from composted shrimp shells & seaweed)
Limestone (for pH adjustment)
Perlite
Mycorise® - endomycorrhizae inoculant

Sounds great but unfortunately i couldn't find it anywhere in my area.
So, i figured i would have to mix it myself. I found Premier Peat-Moss by Premier Horticulture at Lowes. At a local nursery i was able to pick up Gardner & Bloome Perlite and Dr. Earth Kelp Meal. All of these claim to be 100% natural so i'm assuming i'll be within organic standards.

Now, since i'm in a temperature controlled environment, should the Perlite make up a small amount like 10-15% of the mix?
For ease of use you might start with a blend of 50/50 on the moss/perlite part.I would mix the kelp in during the inital dry mix.Just be carefull not to breath in the dust from the ingrediants.Good luck and happy growing.
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