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Old 12-07-2006, 02:24 PM
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This reply is EASY BUTTON type repley...thank you!

As far as you condeming commercial grow wheatgrass. That part does not REALLY bother me AT ALL!

WE have a saying in THIS COUNTRY though>>>>DON'T KNOCK IT...til you try it!

Many of the commercial growers have called me personally to discus growing. They go to say a SOHO show at the convention center here and notice that IF Omega is using my wheatgrass to show how ell their machines work...and they taste DRELICH PREIMIUM WHEATGRASS....that it is exceptional.

I tell them what I use to grow with....and they wonder why I do not use cheaper growing products>>>>>AND make at least twice the profit.

I think more people are selling juicers right now than are growing wheatgrasss commmercially for the general public to enjoy!
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Old 12-07-2006, 02:35 PM
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This reply is EASY BUTTON type repley...thank you!

As far as you condeming commercial grow wheatgrass. That part does not REALLY bother me AT ALL!

WE have a saying in THIS COUNTRY though>>>>DON'T KNOCK IT...til you try it!

Many of the commercial growers have called me personally to discus growing. They go to say a SOHO show at the convention center here and notice that IF Omega is using my wheatgrass to show how ell their machines work...and they taste DRELICH PREIMIUM WHEATGRASS....that it is exceptional.

I tell them what I use to grow with....and they wonder why I do not use cheaper growing products>>>>>AND make at least twice the profit.

I think more people are selling juicers right now than are growing wheatgrasss commmercially for the general public to enjoy!

Plus my wheatgrass does notcost anymore when I sell it than there's!

I am getting the feeeling that you DO belive in Wheatgrass and Barley juice for BETTER HEALTH.....used to PREVENT cronic problems from arising.

That is what it is about for me.

There is a Pentacostal minister who takes fresh wheatgrass juice to old age homes and hospitals....and gives it to people. He buys ten bags a week from me.

"SUPER" Blue Green Alge has been used and enjoyed for a long long time....GOOD...no...VERY GOOD for the body!. But telling people that a FROZEN....Expensive product is said to be 5 times better than fresh JUICE. I do not think so.

When you try a bag of my wheatgrass....and THEN if you say my product is JUST LIKE the rest of the commercial wheatgrass you have had.

I will then THINK your opinion is JUSTIFIED!....Wake up!

Toyota back in the 60's came out with a BETTER >>>CHEAPER car. People still bought Ford....the Pinto...Chevy Vega...etc. But long after the domestic cars were in the junk yard.....the Toyota corolla's were still going on their merry way....with less maintance also.



SPARKINMG of MERRY>>>>Happy Holidays ...Eat well and STAY GREEN....BE healthy! God Bless
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Old 12-07-2006, 08:35 PM
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Premium sweetness=high simple suger content!

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As far as you condeming commercial grow wheatgrass. That part does not REALLY bother me AT ALL!

WE have a saying in THIS COUNTRY though>>>>DON'T KNOCK IT...til you try it!

Many of the commercial growers have called me personally to discus growing. They go to say a SOHO show at the convention center here and notice that IF Omega is using my wheatgrass to show how ell their machines work...and they taste DRELICH PREIMIUM WHEATGRASS....that it is exceptional.

I tell them what I use to grow with....and they wonder why I do not use cheaper growing products>>>>>AND make at least twice the profit.

I think more people are selling juicers right now than are growing wheatgrasss commmercially for the general public to enjoy!

Plus my wheatgrass does notcost anymore when I sell it than there's!

I am getting the feeeling that you DO belive in Wheatgrass and Barley juice for BETTER HEALTH.....used to PREVENT cronic problems from arising.

That is what it is about for me.

There is a Pentacostal minister who takes fresh wheatgrass juice to old age homes and hospitals....and gives it to people. He buys ten bags a week from me.

"SUPER" Blue Green Alge has been used and enjoyed for a long long time....GOOD...no...VERY GOOD for the body!. But telling people that a FROZEN....Expensive product is said to be 5 times better than fresh JUICE. I do not think so.

When you try a bag of my wheatgrass....and THEN if you say my product is JUST LIKE the rest of the commercial wheatgrass you have had.

I will then THINK your opinion is JUSTIFIED!....Wake up!

Toyota back in the 60's came out with a BETTER >>>CHEAPER car. People still bought Ford....the Pinto...Chevy Vega...etc. But long after the domestic cars were in the junk yard.....the Toyota corolla's were still going on their merry way....with less maintance also.



SPARKINMG of MERRY>>>>Happy Holidays ...Eat well and STAY GREEN....BE healthy! God Bless
Theres a big differance between sweetness and nutrition.And there is a big differance in nutrient profiles of wheatgrass;a fractionated foodstuff;and algae a whole food stuff.Your nutritional nonsense is dully noted.Commercial wheatgrass that has been harvested for over3hrs. isnt food its compost or goat food!Consuming subpar foods is foolish and not cost effective.The overhype of grass juic continues through the profitiers,BUYER BE WHERE.Generic is the best the commercial greenhouse growers have to offer.Expensive growing medium what a joke!!
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Old 12-07-2006, 09:13 PM
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NONE are so BLIND that they will not see.....

And finally YOU have put yourself into THAT catagory.

So I suppose that EVERY cronicly ill person....OR...people that just donot have the time to grow their own fresh wheatgrass. Should not purchase commercial grown wheatgrass to give them the Energy focus stamia....+ the cleansing &rejuvination and healing that it provides to the seclect FEW who have a need for it....??

I think the Administrator should take a poll as to who has more ground to stand on....A Fresh wheatgrass grower using the BEST growing ingridients...and who has seen dozens and dozens of people get their miricles happen form drinking the product. Or at least be in BETTER health than before they started to drink it. And believes that the Hippocrates institue in West Pam & the Optimum Health Clinic in California....and the Ann Wigmore Retreats in Arizona and Porto Rico. Have a direct bearing on why I am endorsing a Real Fresh Comple Food product.

JJ43....I donnot know IF(because you said you do Gaming for a living) if you sit on your brains all day and CREATE a modern waste of time. Or if you are a card dealer at a Indian Reservation?

The first person to come down my driveway looking to buy a bag of wheatgrass....had RARE blood desease....And asked me if mywheatgrass was OK for him to drink.....I sent him away beacuse I did not know.

That is while I use a "expensive" soiless custom mix NO wetting agent(chemical...and no start up fertalizer...again made man jmost of the the time...I prefer to use FOOD GRADE sea KELP ..MEAL:..not liquid. Ann Wigmore recommended it...but then she was not as smart as you JJ43!

I did not think that the initial effect wheatgrass juice had on me was real. When it put wind in my sails the second time...I was hooked...going on for 24/7 the past 9 years.

Right now there are good , bad , and evil people...and the fourth kind who do not respect anything or anyone....(do things just for the chuckles).

The people who make their way towards the fresh wheatgrass I grow ...are not looking for LAUGHS.

You will NEVER feel the Chi from drinking my PREMIUM product...unless you put it up to your lips. And RELAX ....this is the 3rd time I have offered to send you a bag..FREE....Why are you so paranoid! Airconditioner break down at the wordplace today......got some dirt under your nails?

Do you drive a ECONOMY car...or a ROLLS_ROYCE?? There is a differnce.

I feel that way about the product we offer!

And have seen the results it makes for the Past 9 years....Like I said originally....YOU are just Jealous.....Because you punch a clock for someone...and do the YES sir NO sir routine allday. WAKE UP!

I hope you are MARRIED...have at least 2 happy healthy children....and someday HAVE YOUR OWN BUSINESS.....then you may become as happy as I am. Happy Holidays OPPS..you may be a ATHIEST....take that back...GOOD DAY!
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Old 12-08-2006, 06:23 AM
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Cool Still Generic still dont need subpar grass!

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And finally YOU have put yourself into THAT catagory.

So I suppose that EVERY cronicly ill person....OR...people that just donot have the time to grow their own fresh wheatgrass. Should not purchase commercial grown wheatgrass to give them the Energy focus stamia....+ the cleansing &rejuvination and healing that it provides to the seclect FEW who have a need for it....??

I think the Administrator should take a poll as to who has more ground to stand on....A Fresh wheatgrass grower using the BEST growing ingridients...and who has seen dozens and dozens of people get their miricles happen form drinking the product. Or at least be in BETTER health than before they started to drink it. And believes that the Hippocrates institue in West Pam & the Optimum Health Clinic in California....and the Ann Wigmore Retreats in Arizona and Porto Rico. Have a direct bearing on why I am endorsing a Real Fresh Comple Food product.

JJ43....I donnot know IF(because you said you do Gaming for a living) if you sit on your brains all day and CREATE a modern waste of time. Or if you are a card dealer at a Indian Reservation?

The first person to come down my driveway looking to buy a bag of wheatgrass....had RARE blood desease....And asked me if mywheatgrass was OK for him to drink.....I sent him away beacuse I did not know.

That is while I use a "expensive" soiless custom mix NO wetting agent(chemical...and no start up fertalizer...again made man jmost of the the time...I prefer to use FOOD GRADE sea KELP ..MEAL:..not liquid. Ann Wigmore recommended it...but then she was not as smart as you JJ43!

I did not think that the initial effect wheatgrass juice had on me was real. When it put wind in my sails the second time...I was hooked...going on for 24/7 the past 9 years.

Right now there are good , bad , and evil people...and the fourth kind who do not respect anything or anyone....(do things just for the chuckles).

The people who make their way towards the fresh wheatgrass I grow ...are not looking for LAUGHS.

You will NEVER feel the Chi from drinking my PREMIUM product...unless you put it up to your lips. And RELAX ....this is the 3rd time I have offered to send you a bag..FREE....Why are you so paranoid! Airconditioner break down at the wordplace today......got some dirt under your nails?

Do you drive a ECONOMY car...or a ROLLS_ROYCE?? There is a differnce.

I feel that way about the product we offer!

And have seen the results it makes for the Past 9 years....Like I said originally....YOU are just Jealous.....Because you punch a clock for someone...and do the YES sir NO sir routine allday. WAKE UP!

I hope you are MARRIED...have at least 2 happy healthy children....and someday HAVE YOUR OWN BUSINESS.....then you may become as happy as I am. Happy Holidays OPPS..you may be a ATHIEST....take that back...GOOD DAY!
Your speaking to someone who isnt sick,the discussion is on quality and only quality.The fact that your grass helps people is Wonderfull!It doesnt change the reality of what it is .So enough with the emotional baggage that is irrelavant to the discussion at hand.The issue is does a very healthy man whose diet is 97% plant based with 60% raw need GENERIC grass?The answer is absolutly not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I get far more sustainable energy from whole food greens.Which contain more chloraphyl,minerals and proteins than grass,a fractionated food.Then when I decide to do a cleansing fast I use my own home grown grass.I would never consume grass that was harvested yesterday.I consider such grass unfit for consumption.This includes my own grass,Fresh is not day old,thats the diffrance between our thoughts.Top quality versus GREENHOUSE GARBAGE!!!!!You make your call on the issue and I will make mine.Freedom of choice versus idiotic dribble,self promoting,blowing ones own horn,never ending advertismet.Greenhouse premium now thats an oxymoron!
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Old 12-08-2006, 02:58 PM
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Green comes in MANY colors.......

I wish that youCOULD tell your story about yourself to the lady in Titusville.

She passed from LUNG CANCER!

Was born and raised a vegitarian....NEVER SMOKED a day in her life.

I am sure YOU would tell her that what happened to her was just a bad dream.

Many airplanes MUST fly over your head everyday.

You try to implie I have a rolls rocye...own a private island....go to Paris when I need a new suit...and have 9 personal servants attending to my every need.


BECAUSE I make tons of money growing FRESH wheatgrass for 9 years for the general public and their need for it. All that on growing less than 200 pounds a week. My wholesale price is $11.oo a bag....and my one pound bags weigh in at 1.20 pounds each! You know like the gas station by your house....you buy 5 gallons and then the guy says take another free!

My website is still a duck with out feathers....if you view it after Microsoft says that the SSL Certificate is not valid....and advises you not to.\

Yep Mister Gaming Expert I am ONLY in the fresh wheatgrass busines for the $$$$$.(whata joke)

The miricles I have wittnessed for the past 9 years mean nothing to me. And the fact that most every week for the past 2 years we SELL OUT OF OUR wheatgrass.

Any grass will start to oxidize after it is cut. Keeping it cold (between 34 and 40 degrees is the answer>>>>DA!.. Do you keep you GREEN ALGIE in the OVEN??

I guess I will light up another $100.oo Cuban cigar and wait for the next e-mail full of rederik and slander. Jealous is as jealous does. And what is it again that YOU do to help people with cronic problems.....GAMING? Go to work and kiss your BOSS again.

You are pathetic.


Then put the 10,ooo's of thousands of dollars and the hours of WORK into what I do for the past 9 years. What comes around goes around. You are make belive !


Eat well and Stay Green and BE Healthy! Ps. we are sold out again of our fresh wheatgrass.........WHERE are the 500 other growers I would like to refer people to????

Wake up JJ43.....Maybe open your own fresh wheatgrass nursery ....and do it your way. you know ....HAND OUT TRAYS!.....and say you grew them in YOUR backyard!

Have you ever hit the bowl when you PEE? Very poor attach on what a few of us do. TRY AGAIN...after you clean up the floor. And don't forget to gas up at my gas station! Buy five get one free! Ps .

This will be my LAST e-mail to you. I still think you work for Walgreens...or perhaps CVS Pharmacy. In any case you ARE a side EFFECT > Look up the word Karma. Game Over

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Old 12-10-2006, 12:14 PM
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Exclamation A Bit More Jiberish With a plug for your web site!

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I wish that youCOULD tell your story about yourself to the lady in Titusville.

She passed from LUNG CANCER!

Was born and raised a vegitarian....NEVER SMOKED a day in her life.

I am sure YOU would tell her that what happened to her was just a bad dream.

Many airplanes MUST fly over your head everyday.

You try to implie I have a rolls rocye...own a private island....go to Paris when I need a new suit...and have 9 personal servants attending to my every need.


BECAUSE I make tons of money growing FRESH wheatgrass for 9 years for the general public and their need for it. All that on growing less than 200 pounds a week. My wholesale price is $11.oo a bag....and my one pound bags weigh in at 1.20 pounds each! You know like the gas station by your house....you buy 5 gallons and then the guy says take another free!

My website is still a duck with out feathers....if you view it after Microsoft says that the SSL Certificate is not valid....and advises you not to.\

Yep Mister Gaming Expert I am ONLY in the fresh wheatgrass busines for the $$$$$.(whata joke)

The miricles I have wittnessed for the past 9 years mean nothing to me. And the fact that most every week for the past 2 years we SELL OUT OF OUR wheatgrass.

Any grass will start to oxidize after it is cut. Keeping it cold (between 34 and 40 degrees is the answer>>>>DA!.. Do you keep you GREEN ALGIE in the OVEN??

I guess I will light up another $100.oo Cuban cigar and wait for the next e-mail full of rederik and slander. Jealous is as jealous does. And what is it again that YOU do to help people with cronic problems.....GAMING? Go to work and kiss your BOSS again.

You are pathetic.


Then put the 10,ooo's of thousands of dollars and the hours of WORK into what I do for the past 9 years. What comes around goes around. You are make belive !


Eat well and Stay Green and BE Healthy! Ps. we are sold out again of our fresh wheatgrass.........WHERE are the 500 other growers I would like to refer people to????

Wake up JJ43.....Maybe open your own fresh wheatgrass nursery ....and do it your way. you know ....HAND OUT TRAYS!.....and say you grew them in YOUR backyard!

Have you ever hit the bowl when you PEE? Very poor attach on what a few of us do. TRY AGAIN...after you clean up the floor. And don't forget to gas up at my gas station! Buy one get one free! Ps .

This will be my LAST e-mail to you. I still think you work for Walgreens...or perhaps CVS Pharmacy. In any case you ARE a side EFFECT > Look up the word Karma. Game Over
The only persons health that I have control over is my own.I dont take resposibility for others because it is impossible to do so.Every person born shall ultimatly die and thats not my fault.My father smoked for 40 years and died of lung cancer.But that is totaly irrelavant to the disscusion at hand.I dont personaly eat algea,nor have I tried E3live.The post that I mentioned E3live was relavant to a poster who spoke about cancer and a cure.In my nutritional studies I read about E3live in a publication by Dr. Gabriel Cousiens from the treeoflife healing retreat.The opinion is that of Dr. cousiens not mine.And the livingfoods lifestyle is taught at all the hippocrates institutes.They are my guiding principles in dietary choices including grass juice consumption.I have never stated that takeing precut grass juice is not of value to the masses!For the coffee slurping donut eating people even the powders have value.But to preach wheatgrass and wheatgrass alone is simplistic and nutritionaly unsound.And to imediatly dis all other foodstuffs is illogical and bias.You are taking this disscusion out of context when you take it personaly.You brought this subject up again I didnt,we already had this disscusion months ago.

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Old 12-10-2006, 02:54 PM
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Reply......?

Om Shante............
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Hello,

I was trying to figure out your soil formula ratio. In a previous post you said you use 50% compost made from used wheat grass flats. What is the other 50% composed of? Thank you!
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Old 02-27-2007, 12:56 AM
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If you are asking me....

The commercial grower of 9 years.....
We mix in fresh bags of our soiless mix into the composted mix....
We toss our composted matts with a 40hp John Deer Tractor....
Adding the fresh bags of chemical free Farfard Custom mix with plenty of perlite for airation makes it easier to handled when refilling the trays.
Also we add Food Grade Sea Kelp MEAL,,,,,From Canada!


Happy growing.
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JJ43(the twister)

You know by now I do find you amusing.

Wanted to let you know that I opted the Dove of piece sysble for a Star Of David.

I have a firm belief in the White Circle of Light! It to me is the universal Power.

Knowing right from wrong. Yes and no. Good and bad and EVIL. Hot and Cold etc.

I feel it is good that you and I are many times outspoken.

The mnay people who have interfaced we ME know that I am generous with giving away knowlege about growing wheatgrass and taking down the confusion of don't do this and never do that with God's gift to the planet and people!

My girlfriend and I drink 6 ounces at a time ...sometimes twice a day!

But that amount might not suit another person for a variety of phsical and mental reasons.

Happy New Year JJ43...and countined sucess in your homeopathic, holistic and alternative medicine endeavors!

Frank the wheatgrass guy of Orlando Florida our 11 year...and growing!
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What are the effects of smoking wheatgrass? and is it healthy?

I jut bought a 5lb bag of wheat grass red seeds and 5 trays that have the bottom tray to collect all the excess water...

I have never personally grown anything in my life so I am a bit confused about the fertilizer and soil. After reading through the posts on this thread some people are saying that azomite is a good fertilizer and so is seaweed extract. is fertilizer and soil the same thing?

ot should i stick with the canadian peat moss and azomite on top?

i am interested in starting a compost..is compost the best type of soil? I am just looking for the best type of soil/fertilizer to get started on the growing process.

I would appreciate any form of clarification on this issue.

Thanks
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Old 08-19-2010, 10:53 PM
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As for fertilizer I just finished an experiment

All trays had the exact same amount of seed (5.4 oz) same brand - same batch.
All were done in a commercial organic mix (Fafard)
(The mix has NO starter fertilizer)

Water was filtered

Heres what I did

1 - No fertilizer at all
2 - 1/2 rate Amozite
3 - 1/2 rate Kelp
4 - 1/2 rate Amozite and 1/2 rate Kelp
5 - 3/4 rate Amozite and 3/4 rate Kelp
6 - full rat Amozite and full rate Kelp

The results - virtually no difference in yield
Differences were 1 ounce of less per tray - which could be attributed to other factors - location on bench, amount of water. (Water was not measured - everything was bottom watered and some benches could have gotten slightly more water than others)

There was no visible difference in the trays - all had the same color green - all tasted the same.


As for the question "Was the juice from the ones with fertilizer more nutritious?" - I had no way of testing that.

My conclusions - Fertilizer makes no difference in yield - possibly because it is such a short term crop that the seed itself contained enough nutrients to get the plant to harvest.

For now I am using 1/2 rate Amozite and 1/2 rate kelp - mostly to hedge the bet on the nutrition value of the juice.
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Old 10-06-2010, 01:31 AM
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I often use organic fertilizers.

They are much better.

Organic fertilizers are naturally-occurring fertilizers (e.g. peat moss or green manure), or naturally occurring mineral deposits (e.g. saltpeter).

Naturally occurring organic fertilizers include manure, slurry, worm castings, peat, seaweed, humic acid, brassin and guano. Sewage sludge use in organic agricultural operations in the U.S. has been extremely limited and rare due to USDA prohibition of the practice (due to toxic metal accumulation, among other factors)
Organic fertilizers also re-emphasize the role of humus and other organic components of soil, which are believed to play several important roles:

* Mobilizing existing soil nutrients, so that good growth is achieved with lower nutrient densities while wasting less
* Releasing nutrients at a slower, more consistent rate, helping to avoid a boom-and-bust pattern
* Helping to retain soil moisture, reducing the stress due to temporary moisture stress
* Improving the soil structure
* Helping to prevent topsoil erosion (responsible for desertfication and the Dust bowl

Organic fertilizers also have the advantage of avoiding certain problems associated with the regular heavy use of artificial fertilizers:

* The necessity of reapplying artificial fertilizers regularly (and perhaps in increasing quantities) to maintain fertility
* Extensive runoff of soluble nitrogen and phosphorus, leading to eutrophication of bodies of water (which causes fish kills)
* Costs are lower for if fertilizer is locally available
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