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Juice seems to be separating apart into two greens?

Juice seems to be separating apart into two greens?

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Old 06-17-2006, 04:39 PM
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Juice seems to be separating apart into two greens?

Juice seems to be separating apart into two greens?

First of Hi everyone I am new to this Forum and to the whole world of Wheatgrass. I don't know much on this subject, and have tried but can’t really find an answer to this problem really glad to find this place. If anyone could help would be great.

I am growing in trays indoors with CFL lights and using soil as the medium for the grass. Grass is of a standard nature when juiced no mould etc. I juice with a GreenStar 200 and then place it in a fridge. As I juice quite a bit at one time due to my time schedule. Consuming the req. levels through out the week. I have had this problem for a little while now and I just usally drink it but sometimes the top lay of green is of a more brown colour.

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Old 06-17-2006, 06:26 PM
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Difussed sunlight (natural)

I would never use artificial light...The true CHI (energy) of the fresh wheatgrasss is atained from natural shaded sunlight. YOU will notice the difference. Switch to a soiless grow mix...without wetting agents(chemicals)...also less evidence of ecoli and salminela potential below the surface. TRY amending the soiless mix with food grade sea kelp meal , not liquid...I prefer the Canadain variety. It is BEST to drink the fresh wheatgrass juice within 10 mintues of makling it....storing it in the fridge will stop it from oxidising.....but the reason you are drinking it ...the live active enzimes will be DEAD!
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Old 06-19-2006, 07:53 PM
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I would never use artificial light...The true CHI (energy) of the fresh wheatgrasss is atained from natural shaded sunlight.
Thanks for the above info and yes it is noted. But at present time this is all I have to work with. I would like to use shaded sunlight. But I want to setup something that can grow all year round, that will allow me to juice all year round. As I live in the UK, this would only mean in the summer time and only if I am lucky. I am sure that I would notice the difference in the light sources.

Q: As I will always be using grow lights does anyone have any advice for a particular type at present time I am using a light like this.

3ws.3countieshydroponics.co.uk/pages/lights/envirol.jpg

The reason I ask is because I am planning to buy another soon and don't no to go with the blue or red specturm light bulb. Any input great.

Q: When you say switch to a soiless grow mix, could you please state which brand or where I could buy some in the UK. As I have stated I am complete new at this and it all sounds a little French to me.

Yes I do agree that it is best to drink fresh wheatgrass juice, but due to my life style. I can only manage to juice once a week on a Sunday night. So I have to juice the whole tray at once.

My final question
Q: Is what is the best method of storing the juice, to keep it as fresh as possible and at the same time keep the enzimes allowing me to drunk it the 3 times a day. Any ideas.

Thanks alot in advance to any advice.
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Old 06-19-2006, 10:11 PM
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Canadian is the BEST.......

That is why I buy my custom mix...Canadian PEAT and Perlite for airation from a company called FAFARD....located in Canada. So also my Food grade sea kelp comes from Nova Scotia. The norwegian kelp is a little cheaper ....but 12 out of 12 people tolds me why testing it on a few trays.....That the flavor was pecular....The differnce between the two companies is that the norwegian company HANDLES their product more. When the peat arrives here in florida the machine that tumbles it from the boxcar(highly compressed) is PRISTINE and has not touched fertalizers or insecticides or fugacides that are put into many of the custom mixes.///////////////////In Canada you get plenty of sunlight but it is not intense....so I do understand wanting to fortify with artificial lighting. I do not like telling you to FREEEZE your fresh juice....but sitting in the refrigerator is not at all good for the long run. Fresh wheatgrass juice is very unique...and will spoil quickly. As I imagine you notice the taste difference after a few days.
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Old 06-20-2006, 08:54 AM
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Smile Juice and growlight issues!

Hello studentB I hope things are well in England.I also own a greenstar2000 and really like the juicer.When I juice wheatgrass I use a little olive oil to keep the foam down to a minimum.I grow inside and outside when the weather is good.About the juice seperating,that happens to everyone.I wouldnt recomend keeping it in the fridge over a couple of hours.Freezing it would be better,I freez my juice for convienance.I juice 5-7 times a week and that involves a lot of work and time that you obviously dont have.Fresh is always best but life can make it difficult with time constraints.I like sunwave fullspectrum lights,A bit pricey but well worth it.You can check them out at sunalux.com.You should check out greenhouse web sites for more info on lights and there applications.Farmtek.com has some neat growing equipment,shipping would be a bit much but you can get an idea or 2 from there site.When it comes to growing mediums experamenting with differant composts and peatmoss can make a big differance in yield.I am getting 10onzs a flat of wheatgrass and 12onzs a flat of barley,in a 21-11 flat.Keep your grades up and happy growing!!
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Old 06-22-2006, 11:19 PM
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Hi,

Thanks for the replies,

Q: Canada you get plenty of sunlight but it is not intense....so I do understand wanting to fortify with artificial lighting.

A: In England at this time of year you get a lot of light. But during the winter nothing much + weather does not help much either. So I decided the best way to go about this was to make one setup that would allow me to grow all year round. Coming to the conclusion that a hydroponics setup would best suit my needs. Once it is setup it is usally quite automation. As I work in the city and have to leave very early in the morning to get to work on time and return late at night don't really have a whole lot time until weekend. I should also say that I live in a tower block which means I don't have a garden and I am currently using the spare rooms as a grow room. So what colour light do you think is best red or blue for the grass and does anyone know how approx how many lumens the grass needs to grow.

Q: I do not like telling you to FREEEZE your fresh juice....

A: This may sound a little crazy but do you mean, right after jucing. If so then out to do you de frezze. Say you freeze it in a plastic container and then cut of the required amount and then put that it to a glass and pour cold water over it and leave for a while. Is this what you mean?

Hi JJ43,

Yes I to like using the Greenstar, I don't have anything to compare it to but it seems to work ok. I do agree that it does foam up alot. I did use a little olive oil on the cogs, but then once again when it was left in the fridge it seperates and this time the liquid was green on the bottom and a dark brown on top which must be the oil I guess.

Thanks for the link will take a look at it and yes I do hope that I get a little better at this as things go along

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Old 06-23-2006, 04:36 AM
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Smile Saving juice via freezing!

When you freeze juice use an old type ice cube tray.You can get theme at walmart,dont buy the dirt cheap ones because they are to fragile and will break.One ice cube is almost an onz. put in glass and wait for it to melt.If your in a hurry fill another container with hot water then put the glas in to enhance the melting time.The learnin curve for wheatgrass is not to steep.Once you control the moisture issue of mold you got it made.I grew some mold at the beginging but once I stopped using sea spray it got better.I have been growing a lot of barley this year and have had good results.You mentioned to drop you an email,yet your public profile dosent have your email address.My email is at my public profile on this web site.Feel free to shoot me an email and pictures of your setup.With my system I am able to grow as much as I want.But I am always looking to improve my growing tech.Good luck and happy growing!!

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I have been informed by another grower that a good way to stop mold is to when soaking the seeds for the first time to heat the water to 61c and then put the seeds into the water. The water will then cool with the seeds in the water. This is meant to help kill of any mold spores or other diseases on the seeds.

Have you ever heard any information like this before.

The learnin curve for wheatgrass is not to steep.Once you control the moisture issue of mold you got it made

Yes I do agree with this, I now seem to be getting alot less mould. The problems I had in the start was mainly down to lack of hydroponics information. In the sense everything was so soil based. No PH , Ec levels or temp / hum levels, this meant that I had to just play it by here and learn for myself.

I am planning on buying some ice cubes makers this weekend to try out your suggestion.

As soon as I get to 20 post I will start posting pictures on here. I have already starting to make a little diary type slideshow, so that once I have done one cycle I can then post on online for tips and advice.

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Smile Mold Control/Growing Concepts!

Hello studentB I have never heard or read about anyone preheating there seed for mold control!Mold is a ubiquitus entity,working with it and bacteria as well is the way to go.To fight against nature is a foolish battle at best!I use simple gardening principles,recycle rotate and learn from older gardeners!Keeping things simple can do wonders for increasing yields.My first wheatgrass kit had citrisde and seaspray and a cd rom with lots of instructions.This techniech worked well in california,but not in ILL.Luckley my brotherinlaw graduated from texas a+m with a holtirlcultural degree.He helped me a lot in my quest to grow the best grass that was possible.It took time and effort,I would recomend keeping a record of your growing by tracking the flats progres.This was very helpfull for me,I have 10 flats in progresion today.I have read about people growing 100% of there food in highrises in newyork,via sprouting and indoor vermicultures.So your concept of growing indoors is dooable.May you be blessed with vibrant heath,and happy growing!
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IF I were to grow with "grow lights"

A 110ftx30ft. Greenhouse would take 40 ....1,000 watt grow lamps...at $1,ooo.oo each....it is pricey....Still for growing fresh wheatgrass purposes the "chi" or energy level attained by using the sun...( Mother Nature)....Is very WEAK comparing the two Methods.

I have designed a Poly-Steel building....Air-conditioned....Poly Steel has a 55% R factor(good insulation) can take 200 mile an hour winds....and is sound proff and bullet proof. Growing in Florida.....I like the 55 % R factor....KEEPS the cooling costs down.

Putting together the $250,ooo.oo for the grow Cube is another story.


Working on it. The cube of course is much larger than a 3,000 sq. ft. Greenhouse.

Eat Well...Stay GREEN and BE Healthy!
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